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Mother's name[edit]Rashi's mother's name is most likely Leah, which was the name of the widowed vintner who lived in Troyes in the mid-11th century and wrote a responsa to the Bet Din protesting taxes on her vineyard. It is highly unlikely that there was more than one Jewish widow winemaker in Troyes at this time, and we know Rashi's mother was one. -- Esparkhu 05:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Rashi's father died when he was a child, and he was thus raised by his widowed mother. The family business was winemaking (a Respona in Tshuvot Rashi mentions him repairing wine vats during Chol Moed - something only the winemaker himself would be allowed to do), and since he was away in the Rhineland studying while his mother supported him, she must have been a vintner as well. At the least she ran the wine business and hired others to do the actually wine making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapark (talk • contribs) 22:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation[edit]needs a disambiguation page for rashi are also the hindoo equivalent of zodiac signs, mentioned on the hindoo calendar page Rashi script[edit]There needs to be a conversion Pic from hebrew letters to Rashi letters. Note re above comment: There is a very good 'Conversion Pic' from hebrew letters to Rashi script at the following web page: http://www.schechter.org/sager/links/fifth/Rashi/RashiScript.html In the table presented on that page, the Hebrew letter is always the left side and the equivalent Rashi script is the right side, for each pair. Commentaries on Rashi`s commentary[edit]--69.114.174.131 23:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)You should make an article on the commentaries on Rashi,on both of Rashi`s commentaries, written by many torah scholars from the tosafits to modern day scholars.
Vandalism!!![edit]I reverted this page to a prior edit because of the worst kind of vandalism. Here is a selection of what was done to this page on 19:28, 24 August 2006 by an anonymous person from the I.p. address User:68.157.134.176.
Anachronistic Image[edit]The image shows Rashi reading a book. However, when he was alive, there were no books. Rashi read parchment scrolls.Lestrade 23:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Lestrade
RASHI and the Development of the French Language[edit]This article should contain RASHI's contribution to the development of the French language. --Lance6968 00:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Rashi picture[edit]Although I think the picture is very nice, it is a copyright violation. The picture's supposed source states: "No part of this web site may be reproduced in any form or by any means without written permission." A proper (scholarly) source needs to be found, which gives the name of the artists who drew it and when the work was first created. --Ghostexorcist 10:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
no footnotes[edit]The lack of references (apart from the generalized list at the bottom) severely detracts from this article. The legend, for example, is very nice, but where is it taken from?--Gilabrand 07:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC) There is a mistake under the picture of the old Rashi text. I studied the Talmud and read and speak Hebrew very well. You can see with a magnifying glass how different the text is between Rashi's and the rest. This is the way it should read: An early printing of the Talmud(Ta'anit 9b); Rashi's commentary covers most of the left column starting with the large word, continouing for seven lines at the bottom of the right column. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matania GINOSAR (talk • contribs) 06:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Movie Reference[edit]In the movie "Lucky Number Slevin", there is a character with the same name, played by the actor, Ben Kingsley. 76.171.208.137 (talk) 09:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC) 2008-06-30 T02:34 Z-7 NPoV[edit]This page has an extreme bias; this bias exists not so much in the information presented as in the phrasing. Someone who is politically (and religiously I suppose) neutral on this topic needs to go through this article with a fine tooth comb and squash the bias. Some more references would be nice as well. Right now the article is a little lacking in that area. Gopher65talk 00:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Legends section[edit]I take exception to the deletion of material which is sourced and referenced. Everybody knows the legend of Rashi's pregnant mother squeezing herself into the wall, and the "evidence" is there to prove it. Rashi's ancestry as a 33rd-generation descendant of Rabbi Yochanan Hasandlar is also widely discussed. Jewish children grow up with these legends, but they don't merit a place in Wikipedia? Anyone reading this article for a research project would be interested in this (deleted) information:
Yoninah (talk) 08:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Descendants[edit]The claim that almost all Ashkenazim are descended from Rashi is not based on actual historical research, so much as on mathematical models showing that almost every Ashkenazi alive today is descended from almost every Ashkenazi of Rashi's day who had grandchildren. That some Sefardim are also descended from Rashi should be no surprise at all, but the recently added blog post doesn't tell us anything about the importance of these particular desecendants. So I've removed both claims. -- Zsero (talk) 02:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
"Religious belief"[edit]Ascribing to Rashi "Orthodox Judaism" is rather fanciful. In the 12th century, there were no such distinctions. One might, by that point, identify as an Ashkenazi Jew, a Sephardic Jew, or some other cultural distinction, but there was not enough cohesion among the Jewish communities in Europe for Judaism-wide movements to develop. It was at least another 500 years before anything identified as Reform Judaism showed up, so that before Reform Judaism, there really was no "Orthodox Judaism." It was just Judaism. It's debatable whether Orthodox Judaism holds a unique claim to be orthodox in that it follows a tradition of halakhic method and customs that was universal in all the diaspora before the modern age. Christianity has any number of competing sects and schools of thought which claim to be the original Christianity exactly as handed down by Jesus to the Apostles; So too does Judaism have one sect which claims to be THE Judaism as it always was (and I've heard Conservative rabbis persuasively argue that Orthodox halakhah is in part reactionary to the excesses of the Reform movement). Needless to say, if the Jews of 3000 years ago walked into a frum shul today, they would likely be confused (and vice versa). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaletiger (talk • contribs) 17:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
You seem to be confusing Orthodox Judaism with all Judaism pre-Haskalah. While there are many similarities, no union of Orthodox rabbis existed to compare notes. "Orthodox Judaism" as such came into being after Reform was created, and all forms of Judaism basically differ in their approach to dealing with the possibility of fully engaging with the modern Gentile world, a possibility which to Rashi would have been merely an academic point. Both Orthodox and Conservative rabbis have had to address questions of how halakhah apply to situations and circumstances that did not exist when the Sages were expounding upon the Torah. To say that the Orthodox rabbis do not consider the practices of the Reform and the decisions of the Conservative rabbis in making their own legal decisions is naive. The Orthodox would like everyone else to believe that theirs is the "correct Judaism"; that because the Conservative have innovated in certain areas the Orthodox find unacceptable, that the Conservative are something other than "real" Judaism. In reality, I think many Orthodox have built fences around the fences around the fences built around Torah, out of a fear that any engagement with the secular world will lead to assimilation. At any rate, labeling Rashi an "O"rthodox Jew is like labeling the Magna Carta an American document. It's a needlessly divisive way of sidelining lesser Jews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.234.239 (talk) 20:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, that was unnecessarily rude. Your defense that "modern English didn't exist" is ridiculous. The concept of orthodoxy has existed since the ancient Greeks. Rashi was in France, not England, but you don't think that French or Yiddish or Aramaic or Hebrew didn't have a word they could have used for "Orthodox," if it had been intended that they separate themselves out as correct Jews, do you? Rashi was a Jew. We can all agree on that. Any other suppositions are based on your own arrogance and modern internecine squabbles instigated by "O"rthodox bullies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.234.239 (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
In Israel they use the term "ultra-orthodox" which really to me seems to have no meaning, I mean if the laws are rigorously derived then there's nothing stricter than orthodox. But the real issue has to with sex (as do a lot of things in life) did Rashi's daughters wear Tifillin? I don't suppose anyone knows for sure but certainly no orthodox woman would wear tefillin nowadays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.53.140.157 (talk) 20:16, 5 November 2017 (UTC) New category?[edit]Category:Descendants of Rashi? Thoughts. Chesdovi (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC) ha-Kadosh suffix[edit]Rashi is commonly called "ha-Kadosh". [1], plus many more sources. Please re-add cat. Chesdovi (talk) 13:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Neutral?[edit]That "neutral" doubt box is original research and should be removed quickly, in my view. It was done by someone who wrote biographies of Jews on Wiki eg Joel Sternfeld and purposely leaves out all of their Jewish art works and never mention that they are Jewish. The editor also has absolutely not one single iota of knowledge who Rashi was (the undoubtedly greatest, post Amorah, Jewish leader of all time, top 3 according to everyone). The reason it is original research is that no text criticizes RASHI, that I can find. Can you find one? Therefor a very positive article is eminently appropriate!!!! Obviously, he is not a controversial figure, to an antiSemite all Jews are controversial. AntiSemitism today has been replaced by antiReligious so called Haredi, and anti"Zionist" scapegoating (the 7 million Jews alive in Israel ), RASHI is being branded with the original research broad "religious" brush, of today, therefor bad. Publish an anti-Rashi book if you want (there are none) do not soap box your ignorance on Wiki please, it is original research, in my view.Jhgtnlrs dnbtojn (talk) 11:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC) Also since Wiki is an Encyclopedia of the people an article about the greatest "religious" Jew ever should be written in the style that religious Jews write. As long as the grammar is on par. Just as an article about a Sikh leader should be written in an English speaking Sikh style, an article about the best Jew should be written in a style that contemporary religious Jews write, so that the reader can get a taste of religious Judaism. Why does every article on Wiki have to be written in the style of a couple of bully editors? In fact some articles are written in a British English style, some are in Australian English style, including phrasing. Religious Jews have a unique style of speech and literature today (study Artscroll), though heavily criticized by secular Jews, you may be in denial, but that is the case. Also Religious Jews tend to be much much much and another much poorer and less educated than non-religious Jews (the poorest county in America is Kiryas Joel of all Americans for example), and the articles should represent that deviance. Why should antiReligious activists angrily destroy that diversity, from a minority among a minority? Trust me Christian articles are written in a Christian or Catholic style when referring to the medeival Christian Saints.Jhgtnlrs dnbtojn (talk) 12:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Ambiguous - Jarchi[edit](Different question, since I don't know how to start a different category) How about ambiguous too? I'm no scholar, but I ran across a commentary that told what Jarchi said about the "angel" that visited Hagar (Ishmael's mom), so I got nosy and wanted to find out who Jarchi was. That landed me to this wiki entry, but it never answered my question. If John Gill can say he got his info from Jarchi a couple of hundred years ago, then how did Jarchi stop being Jarchi? Simply telling me his other names doesn't clarify why he had so many names. Honestly, it sounds like you're rewriting history to make a point. That may not be what's happening, but that's how a nonscholar like me is taking it. How about less ambiguous, so people researching who Jarchi is can figure out why he stopped being called that in the last couple of hundred years? The upside is a more thorough article. 98.115.150.131 (talk) 17:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Living Descendents[edit]I have found a living descendent of Rashi. His name is Jeffrey Mark Paull. Here is the URL where I found out about him: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/finding-your-roots/blog/noble-heritage-history-legacy-polonsky-paull-family-america/. Anonymous173.57.37.138 (talk) 06:43, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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Request Edit - Public Domain and CC-BY Hebrew & English Texts[edit]
Sefaria has a full 80 different texts written by Rashi (counting each book of Tanach, Talmud, Teshuvot Rashi and Issur veHeter leRashi.), some of them in multiple languages. Probably most relevant to the English speaking world is the text for two complete English translations of Rashi on Torah - the Silbermann edition, which is Public domain, and the Metsudah edition, which was release with a CC-BY license. It also has the vowelized Hebrew from the Silbermann edition. I believe that a link to this would fall under section 2 of WP:ELYES. I have a COI (I work for Sefaria), and have discussed it on WikiProject:Judaism. Other similar edit requests have been approved. Here are the links to the text of his Torah commentaries - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy Given that there's a bunch of other works available as well, perhaps the link should be to his author page? Rashi. I'm not sure which is best. LevEliezer (talk) 17:39, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 20:56, 6 December 2017 (UTC) |
Dec 7 2017 edit request
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@Spintendo: Following up on the above, I'd like to reopen the request. The details as above remain the same, here's a tighter presentation of the change:
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LevEliezer (talk) 18:42, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ Liber, Maurice. Rashi, Kessinger Publishing, 2004. pg. 18-19. ISBN 1419143964
- Implemented Thank you for following up. Your request has been implemented. Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 19:10, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Birth date Feb 22 ?!
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Where is the source of this info from? AFAICS it's not in Maurice Liber's book. We do know the definite death date as found in a Siddur from the time, but not of the year of birth (due to two understandings of the years he lived). But afaik, there is no further information, anywhere about Rashi's birth. The date is listed here almost since the beginning of this article in 2004 by User:Magpark no user page. I added a talk page asking him/her. BTW my English name is Maurice and my English birtheday is Feb 21! Moshe פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
If there is no source it should be removed. As far as I know, the birth year of Rashi is a bit fuzzy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geshem Bracha (talk • contribs) 12:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Rashi's works in Old French?
[edit]A new paragraph about Rashi's works that were supposedly written in Old French was just added to the lead of the article. But since the entire article currently does not seem to mention any works by Rashi that were written in Old French, this addition would need to be first verified against other sources that are currently used in the article.
If indeed there were such works, then this linguistic addition would go into the "Works" section, not straigth into the lead. This is just my opinion, in a preliminary note, without having the time right now to check the entire issue more in depth. Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 23:09, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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