Talk:RAF Mount Pleasant

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Despite my nitpicking, I really like this article. Thanks, Astrotrain. - Hephaestos 20:20 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

using google earth, RAF mount pleasant appears to be ~ 30 miles south-west-west of port stanley, though I'm not sure that's the way to write it (which is why I haven't edited it in) 81.102.41.34 23:54, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

"The craters seen (see image in external link) were in fact heaps of earth placed there by the Argentines to make it look as though the runway was damaged.[4] " This seems at odds with other articles here and the book Vulcan 607. Is there any evidence that this might be the case?--Jeffjn 19:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

History section needs to be cleared

The section has a lot of propaganda, false assumptions and irrelevant data (e.g. Belgrano has nothing to do with Mount Pleasant). Please check with other well sources articles like Falklands War. --Jor70 (talk) 11:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

The raids obviously were not highly successful due Hercules, Pucaras and Aermacchis MB339 jets continuosly used the runway until June 14. The runway was already "disabled" for fast jets operations before the Vulcan raid, its was simply too short. The FAA didnt care to extend it (mistakenly may be) until they realized that UK will go to war (too late, british SSN already blocked all naval transit to the islands) Please read all sources in Falklands War and Black Buck Operation articles . --Jor70 (talk) 13:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I'm forced to agree, regardless of what the effectiveness of the Black Buck Raids is considered to be, its in no way relevent to the Mount Pleasant Base —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.20 (talk) 15:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

What was wrong with my cleanup version [1] ? Why people continue to remove things without creating a consensus first ? I posted in this talk page a request about the history section and having no answer in 5 days I cleaned up. All the other stories are irrelevent here but if someone still have the urge of talking about the sinking of Belgrano we can add a see also. --Jor70 (talk) 20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

There was a lot wrong with the "rewrite", not least due to the fact it removed critical information. Fast jet = fighter, not passenger aircraft in English for one. Justin talk 08:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you please show me the critical information related to Mount Pleasant (Black buck??, Mirages??, Belgrano?? ) --Jor70 (talk) 13:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

ould anyone tell me weather the information about flights between Río Gallegos and MPleasant is right or not? Juan Pablo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luquejp (talk • contribs) 02:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I did explain part of what it was above, I really don't have the time to explain every action to you. Continually questioning my good faith edits is starting to get extremely tedious and not to mention rather irritating. As is your POV push on these articles. Justin talk 13:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

HMS Invincible mention

HMS Invincible is mentioned in the context of the need to cover the Islands post '82. Fair enough. However, the gratuitous mention of the 30th of May "attack" and supposed damage caused to the vessel has been entirely debunked elsewhere, and is only seen these days as a weak piece of Argentine propaganda and not worthy of Wikipedia. I will remove this reference immediately. If there is any need for discusion on this point, please add below.

Benjym (talk) 19:17, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Please undo your last revision [2] since your removal had nothing to do with the alleged Argentine attack. User:Justin A Kuntz had already removed the material in question, eight minutes before your edit. The Invincible's repair at sea was correct, as stated in the lines you removed. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 21:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

RAF tornado names

The first RAF tornados based here were presumably named ofr the Faith, Hope and Charity of Hal Far Fighter Flight during the Siege of Malta (World War II)? David Underdown (talk) 18:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Corridor

Article currently reads in part The world's longest corridor,[clarification needed] half a mile (800 m) long.... The cited source [3] is a Daily Telegraph obituary of Brigadier David Nicholls which does indeed say ...the Mount Pleasant base has the world's longest corridor linking accommodation and working areas. This half-mile passage was known to his troops as "Death Star Corridor" until Nicholls called in a family friend, the artist Professor Elaine Shemilt who, with colleagues and students from Dundee University, turned it into an attractive, warm thoroughfare now known as the Millennium Corridor.

It may be true. The K-25 building is about 1,000' by 2,000', and the operators used to ride bicycles down its corridors to read the meters. But half a mile is 2,640'. Andrewa (talk) 07:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Are you suggesting the claim is removed? Wee Curry Monster talk 11:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, no. The claim is supported by a source that's at least borderline, and it sounds incredible but is quite possible. Or that's my conclusion. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

The reason for this section is to save others reinventing the wheel by repeating my research, as the claim does sound incredible at first IMO. Andrewa (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

It is the "Millennium Corridor" now, after it had been beautied up in 1999. See here https://app.dundee.ac.uk/pressreleases/prdec99/falkback.htm (unfortunately the images don't work, but Google still has them cached at present)...

or so they say. The old name was too iconic, and is still used. For a better source than The Failegraph, try https://www.forces.net/operations/falklands/raf-team-trekking-worlds-longest-corridor-charity. 2A02:8071:5BD0:D4C0:0:0:0:7BA0 (talk) 21:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Flights to Saint Helena

I have trouble with the idea of flights from Mount Pleasant to St Helena. But it rather depends on whether it means just flights from the Falklands to St Helena or is meant to imply flights from St Helena to the Falklands as well. It's stated to be about 3,812 miles from St Helena to the Falklands. Although the St Helena airport will be "international", the runway will be relatively short. This places considerable restraints on the aircraft that could use it. I haven't been able to find a commercial aircraft that could use St Helena and have the range to reach the Falklands. It is felt that most flights from St Helena will be to mainland Africa. That wouldn't help because, even if an aircraft "hopped" down the west coast of Africa, the distance from Cape Town to the Falklands is even more. It "might" be possible for an aircraft originating in the Falklands to land at St Helena, having expended most of its fuel, but how would it take off again? Incidentally, St Helena's airport will only be able to accommodate two mid-range aircraft at a time. Even the wingspan of a long range aircraft might be too much! The MercoPress news agency is not necessarily so reliable. You will note that I use the term "St Helena" rather than "Saint Helena". Most search engines default to the town of Saint Helena, near San Francisco. Might be worth considering.Agent0060 12:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent0060 (talk • contribs)

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Dates need a lot of tidying up

...as well as the lack of references. There is a sentence "currently,,,," with no date, containing what us I believe out-dated information. Further on there is a "Now..." with no date, probably also followed by out-dated information.

Would someone like to give this article a complete overhaul?

Boscaswell talk 11:04, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Deployment of kosovar security forces to the islands

Should we add the 7 to 9 man force send by Kosovo to the forces deployed? 81.110.70.101 (talk) 23:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, provided you have a reliable reference. Gavbadger (talk) 22:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)