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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_November_22
November 22
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Goodall Focus
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete', redundant category, the two articles already refer to each other directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Bugs Bunny
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: User:Dimadick has tried his best, but has failed miserably. I am nominating multiple categories named after Looney Tunes Characters (Except for ones like the Road Runner one, which I actually think can stay, but may need to purged too). For instance, the Bugs Bunny one contains a bunch of media and even non-media things; such as Tyson Looney Tunes Meals, which should honestly be moved to main Looney Tunes category instead. Bugs Bunny is already the most popular Looney Tunes character, almost all Looney Tunes media featured him. Furthermore, just because Bugs was named after compilation of movies such as The Essential Bugs Bunny or a concert called Bugs Bunny on Broadway does not instantly mean it is directed related to the character. Finally, if you still don't agree, prhaps we can still make separate categories with names like "Works featuring Bugs Bunny"? But maybe not anyway QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Caves of Xinjiang
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Caves of Xinjiang to Category:Buddhist grottoes of Xinjiang
- Nominator's rationale: These are all artificial, and thus not true caves. This is a more accurate description. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 19:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Should actually be renamed to Category:Buddhist grottoes in Xinjiang Kingsmasher678 (talk) 19:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: you might want to comment on this one as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rename Category:Buddhist caves in Xinjiang. "Grotto" is merely the Italian for "cave", & in English is an old-fashioned term we should not be using. Most of the individual articles/parents use the standard term "cave", and so should we. As discussed in the Indian cases, that "These are all artificial" is a somewhat dubious statement. Johnbod (talk) 18:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target? There are three possibilities floating around.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Hope Flying Dutchmen
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Hope Flying Dutchmen to Category:Hope Flying Dutchmen and Flying Dutch
- Nominator's rationale: See all other categories in Category:College sports teams in the United States by team, even in cases where the men's and women's teams have different names, the Wikipedia convention is to group them into one category (gender-specific groupings can then be made at the sport level). --Habst (talk) 20:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise, Category:Hope Flying Dutchmen athletes should be renamed to Category:Hope Flying Dutchmen and Flying Dutch athletes. --Habst (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Alumni of Coleg Cambria
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category containing no articles. Category:Alumni of Yale College, Wrexham has been made a sub-category despite the fact that Yale College Wrexham is now defunct and the two alumni in the category graduated from it when it was not part of Coleg Cambria. This extra layer of categorisation is inaccurate and makes absolutely no sense. AusLondonder (talk) 19:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia categories named after theorems
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A "maintenance" category, but when asked, category creator could not indicate what maintenance might be needed for these specifically. Fram (talk) 18:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I guess there are many more of these "maintenance" categories around. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia categories named after numbers
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A "maintenance" category, but when asked, category creator could not indicate what maintenance might be needed for these specifically. Fram (talk) 18:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Scripps News affiliates
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Scripps News ceased distribution to broadcast stations on November 15, 2024, and became streaming-only ([1]). The remaining articles need updating to indicate the subchannel that has replaced it. As such, this category should be empty. This also follows precedent that diginets that fold or cease broadcast distribution do not maintain affiliate categories, e.g. Circle (TV network), Twist (TV network). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:IShowSpeed tours
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: High likelihood that all three IShowSpeed tour articles get deleted, so therefore this category should be removed also. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 18:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Template:Telemundo-stub
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Stub template of unclear utility. It's being used on ten Telemundo-affiliated television stations and one Telemundo television series, but it files its entries into the general Category:United States television station stubs instead of a dedicated "Telemundo stubs" category that couldn't exist without at least 50 more uses than thus template has -- but since every one of those articles also has another stub template ("[State]-tv-station stub" and/or "US-drama-tv-prog-stub") on it, that means that every article is already in a more specific subcategory of the Category:United States television station stubs parent (or doesn't belong under that tree at all in the case of the series), and thus this template is adding absolutely nothing but unnecessary duplicate categorization. Bearcat (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:627 BC establishments
[edit]- Propose merging Category:627 BC establishments to Category:627 BC
- Propose merging Category:626 BC establishments to Category:626 BC
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:LGBTQ by continent and country
[edit]- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in Africa by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in Africa
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in Asia by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in Asia
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in Europe by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in Europe
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in North America by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in North America
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in Oceania by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in Oceania
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ history in South America by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ history by country and Category:LGBTQ history in South America
- Propose merging Category:LGBTQ culture in Africa by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ culture by country and Category:LGBTQ culture in Africa
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary container. Also, analogous categories are not by country by continent. Web-julio (talk) 16:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:National Football League Most Valuable Player Award winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Matching its parent article; WP:CONCISE ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The prior name is pretty long. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:National Football League Offensive Player of the Year Award winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Matching its parent article; WP:CONCISE ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The prior name is pretty long. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:National Football League Defensive Player of the Year Award winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Matching its parent article; WP:CONCISE ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The prior name is pretty long. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:National Football League Defensive Rookie of the Year Award winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Matching its parent article; WP:CONCISE ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The prior name is pretty long. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:National Football League Offensive Rookie of the Year Award winners
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Matching its parent article; WP:CONCISE ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The prior name is pretty long. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Indian Paintbrush (company) films
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Indian Paintbrush (company) films to Category:Indian Paintbrush films
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary disambiguation. No other category with "indian paintbrush" currently exists and even if they did, "films" exists as a natural disambiguator. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 15:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is the wrong order. First article Indian Paintbrush (company) should be renamed, thereafter this category can follow. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Further education colleges in Pembrokeshire
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Buildings and structures in Pembrokeshire and Category:Education in Pembrokeshire.
Category containing only a single article, better categorised within the parents AusLondonder (talk) 15:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Triple merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Further education colleges in Denbighshire
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Education in Denbighshire. Category containing only a single article, better categorised within the parents AusLondonder (talk) 15:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Triple merge, also to Category:Buildings and structures in Denbighshire. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:8th-century BC establishments in Europe
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, isolated category and both subcats are already in Category:8th-century BC establishments by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Doctor Who locations
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: No subjects except for an audio series that takes place in the titular location. Every other location with an article has been redirected, making this category relatively moot. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 15:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Professional wrestling shows in British Columbia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: A request to speedily rename this category to match the contents of the category was opposed. There are no articles on this topic except for those which took place in Vancouver so this is an unnecessary layer of categorization. User:Namiba 15:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Milwaukee Brewers (AA) players
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Milwaukee Brewers (AA) players to Category:Milwaukee Brewers (1891) players
- Nominator's rationale: The description says this category is only for people who played on the 1886–92 version of the Milwaukee Brewers in the original version of the American Association (AA) in 1891, when that league was considered a major league. However, a later team called the Milwaukee Brewers played in a second incarnation of the "American Association" (AA) for fifty years. Thus, on its face, "Category:Milwaukee Brewers (AA) players" could refer to players from either team. As a result, more than three times as many members of the "Category:Milwaukee Brewers (AA) players" are miscategorized members of the 1902–52 minor league team than correctly categorized members of the 1891 major league team. In short, "(AA)" does not disambiguate this category from Category:Milwaukee Brewers (minor league) players. "(1891)" would Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 15:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:19th-century BC establishments by country
[edit]- Propose merging Category:19th-century BC establishments by country to Category:19th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:16th-century BC establishments by country to Category:16th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:15th-century BC establishments by country to Category:15th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:13th-century BC establishments by country to Category:13th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:12th-century BC establishments by country to Category:12th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:11th-century BC establishments by country to Category:11th-century BC establishments
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer for this very early period, every of these categories contains very few subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:13th-century BC establishments in India
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated category with only two articles, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:15th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization
[edit]- Propose merging Category:16th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization to Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in the Maya civilization and Category:16th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:15th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization to Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in the Maya civilization and Category:15th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:13th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization to Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in the Maya civilization and Category:13th-century BC establishments
- Propose merging Category:11th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization to Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in the Maya civilization and Category:11th-century BC establishments
- Nominator's rationale: merge, semi-isolated single- or dual-article categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:15th-century BC establishments in Vietnam
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:719 BC
[edit]- Propose merging Category:719 BC to Category:710s BC
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional Belgian people
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Fictional Belgian people to Category:Fictional people created by Belgians
- Nominator's rationale: The current name gives the impression that these are characters with an in-universe nationality or citizenship. Most of them have no defined nationality though and are (often deliberately) created as somewhat "universal" or vaguely Western European. A rename of the category may make this clearer (better suggestions for the new name are welcome!) Fram (talk) 13:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose, this should be discussed together with the sibling categories. Just renaming Belgium does not make sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Without comment on what the categories should be for, the current category tree does contain some articles (e.g. Doctor Evil, Hercule Poirot) where the character is specifically Belgian but the creator is not, some where both character and creator are Belgian (e.g. Tintin (character)), and some where the creator is Belgian but the character is not specifically, or if they are no mention is made of it in the relevant article (e.g. Gil Jourdan lives in Paris; if he is canonically Belgian our article does not mention it). There are also several articles included which are about the work of fiction rather than the character (La Patrouille des Castors, L'Élève Ducobu). Whatever happens to the category it could do with cleaning up. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 12:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tintin is never officially or canonically stated to be Belgian, although much points to it. But perhaps the category needs splitting instead of deleting then, any suggestions what the best name might be for the ones created by a Belgian? Fram (talk) 11:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 06:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Big 12 Championship Game venues
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT User:Namiba 19:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 06:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Channel 4 presenters
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Channel 4 presenters to Category:British television presenters
- Nominator's rationale: It's just people who present or have once presented random Channel 4 programmes. We shouldn't be dividing by network, which amounts to nothing more than WP:PERFCAT. The national level is sufficient. --woodensuperman 08:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Most would not need merging. See https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29825441 for the few that are not in English/Scottish etc. Some e.g. Fred Sirieix are not British anyway. Shouldn't Category:BBC television presenters be added to this nomination? See also the 2007 precedents for deletion listed in the related nomination #Category:ABS-CBN personalities. – Fayenatic London 16:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- There are probably a lot of "by network" presenters, personalities, newsreaders, etc,. that should be considered for deletion per WP:PERFCAT. --woodensuperman 16:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 05:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Manually merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:FM-Class articles
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:FM-Class articles to
Category:FM-Class filesCategory:FM-Class pages and all subcategories
- Propose renaming Category:FM-Class articles to
- Nominator's rationale: Quite simply, these are not articles, but are pages in the File namespaces. I suspect the category was named because it was easier to populate via template, but now we are using lua it will be easy to change this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- The same applies to all subcategories. Shouldn't they be renamed too, in one go with the parent? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I said "and all subcategories" in my nomination. I am not going to list them all here! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: well, you should, otherwise it is not going to happen. You also need to tag the pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have listed the subcats on the talk page with their target names. IMHO, if approved by consensus here, this can go ahead as housekeeping under WP:G6 without needing to tag them all. – Fayenatic London 11:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: well, you should, otherwise it is not going to happen. You also need to tag the pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I said "and all subcategories" in my nomination. I am not going to list them all here! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- On reflection I have changed my proposed target for the rename to Category:FM-Class pages as this may fit in better with other categories if they are also renamed. For example Category:File-Class pages works better than Category:File-Class files — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 05:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Private hospitals in Greece
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Private hospitals in Greece to Category:Hospitals in Greece
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 02:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- It should also be merged to Category:Private hospitals. But better expand this nomination with the Saudi Arabia and Vietnam siblings. Currently there aren't any individual private hospitals directly in Category:Private hospitals and it would not make much sense to have the Greek private hospital as the only biography there. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Actually found another Greek hospital and have added it. LibStar (talk) 06:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose, under-population is not a valid reason for deletion. It should be tagged appropriately under [[Category:Underpopulated categories]]. (Same response I had given to Haitian company founders below). LibStar, perhaps you can find other entries instead of creating these nominations considering you found second entry here? Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Savvyjack23: if you know any articles that belong in the category just add them instantly. That is more effective than tagging. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Haitian company founders
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Haitian company founders to Category:Haitian businesspeople
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 02:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Company founders. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose, under-population is not a valid reason for deletion. It should be tagged appropriately under [[Category:Underpopulated categories]]. Furthermore, just because there is only one entry, does not mean there are not other biographies elsewhere to include. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Mehreen Jabbar's directions
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: category does not follow established naming conventions, and currently contains both films and TV shows by this director. 1857a (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Split per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Vanuatuan people by occupation and century
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 00:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Beat 'em up characters
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: contains only one subcategory, at the moment. Perhaps you could populate it somehow, or maybe not. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for now, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge to Category:Action game characters, with no prejudice against recreation if more members can be found. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)