Talk:Religion in Japan
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[edit]The following section comes from the Christianity paragraph: " Portuguese traders were already active in Kagoshima since 1943,[53] welcomed by local daimyo because they imported gunpowder. Anijirō, a Japanese convert, helped the Jesuits understanding Japanese culture and translating the first Japanese catechism.[54]
These missionaries were successful in converting large numbers of people in Kyushu, including paesants, former Buddhist monks, and members of the warrior class.[55] In 1559, a mission to the capital, Kyoto, was started.[56] By the following year there were already nine churches, and the Christian community grew steadily in the 1560s"
So should the 1943 be changed to 1493? - Bramvr (talk) 09:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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Request change, source 1 census is listed as being in 2006, but there is reason to believe it is in 2000
[edit]I do not speak Japanese, so forgive me if I am wrong, but I noticed that the pie chart's date seems to be wrong. I journied over to the source, because I wanted to see it for myself for a paper I'm working on, and I noticed that there is a contradiction. The top of the census says: "2000年," and at the very bottom of the page, however, it says "Added... 2006." I could be mistaken, but to the best I could tell, the census is from 2000, but the person added the information was uploaded to the source by a third party in the year of 2006. Forgive me if I am wrong.
MrRichBOB (talk) 05:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
The kami are not the one centralized god-creator of the Universe, neither their personhood is as partonizing as for example the Abrahamic god.
(personhood is important to mention here, because personhood is about the definition of the person; not personality which focuses mainly on the particularities of the individual - we should study deeple the "personhood of kami" or the "degree of personhood" but degree of personhood is a different subject) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:410C:8900:D48A:A93:3E21:696F (talk) 22:53, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Thus many Japanese who are irreligious don't have enough motivation to be declared antispiritualists.
We have to mention that.
Some (but not all) Japanese are conceited. They focus on the blurriness of some Shinto texts, on the fact that kami is not the one universal creator, and on the fact that kami aren't as partonizing as the Islamic, Christian or other gods.
This isn't a metalogically deep reason to avoid strong atheism if your reasoning leads you there.
The Japanese don't show proper respect to pure nothingness and stict antimathematicality/antispirituality.
Not all Japanese have a single opinion. Few are true atheists.
As a society they don't show respect towards pure nothingness and pure atheism.
That's a problem of their own.
They should stop blaming the non patronizing weakness and non universal centrality of the kami.
Respecting something doesn't mean you have to agree.
They (as a society) don't show respect towards pure nothingness and pure atheism.
Not all Japanese are male, old or artists. Many different characters exist.
We shouldn't blame individuals, instead the Japanese society.
- don't delete that; it's a subtle social problem (it will be solved, because new immigrants aren't inhabited in conduct and speak out their minds) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:410C:8900:D48A:A93:3E21:696F (talk) 22:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Japanese Buddhism
[edit]I would like to eventually explain Pure land Buddhism is different from JodoShu(Pure land Buddhism is called Jodo-Kyo here in Japan),When I find an English source.(I know an American Buddhist who believes pure land Buddhism,who's texts are not availableHard to find unlike common Buddhism text in Japan)Give me some time until I find them.Paperworkorange (talk) 15:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Inconsistent Figures
[edit]The figures showing the breakdown of religious practice in Japan flatly contradict each other. The NHK data seems to be at odds with the other sources stated at the top. If it's an outlier it should but be placed so prominently or, if not, they're should at least be an mention of the divergence of the graphs in their captions. 24.185.137.174 (talk) 00:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- It depends on what the original NHK source says. The CIA factbook source which is unknown allowed people to identify more than one religion (which goes with Japanese society allowing the possibility of following both Shinto and Buddhist practices). The NHK source is in Japanese so I can't read it but does not seem to allow overlap (or else the person creating the pie chart chose data to fit a pre-conceived notion that a person could only be one religion at a given time). Given the overlap existing, the pie chart should go even though on the whole I prefer to avoid the CIA Factbook data because it does not list its sources. Erp (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Data outdated
[edit]The data for the percentages of adherents of different faiths is outdated Stormplatter (talk) 05:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Ucsp about beliefs in japan.
[edit]Beliefs in Japan 175.176.77.169 (talk) 07:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Percentage in Japanese religion Pie chart
[edit]Hello, can you please fix the pie chart of the percentage of shinto its percentage is more higher than 3%. Can you help fix it to its proper percentage please ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.150.13.206 (talk) 01:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Inaccurate Graphic
[edit]The pie chart at the start of the article seems wildly inaccurate - it shows the percentage of people practising Shinto as 3%..? ElleBlair (talk) 21:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps this is 3% membership in Shinto organizations.JimRenge (talk) 21:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- The two graphs currently in the article are wildly different from each other. Frankly, the NHK study seems ridiculous or completely misinterpreted. Dialmayo 15:22, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed the two pie charts. These type of charts assume that people associated with only one religion which is manifestly untrue in Japan. I've also revamped the opening paragraph in the Demographics section. The previous version had a reasonably good source but used only one fact from it and perhaps the least interesting fact in the source. Erp (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Erp: Perhaps a note explaining why the percentages don't add up to 100% would be useful to readers. Dialmayo 18:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed the two pie charts. These type of charts assume that people associated with only one religion which is manifestly untrue in Japan. I've also revamped the opening paragraph in the Demographics section. The previous version had a reasonably good source but used only one fact from it and perhaps the least interesting fact in the source. Erp (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
NHK Research at top of article
[edit]Surely it is misleading to have research with such a small sample size at the start of the article. Most estimates conclude that Shintoism and Buddhism are the dominant religions. I do believe that the research should be mentioned at some point in the article however having research that conflicts with most other research at the very top of the article is very misleading - 🇮🇪 Signed, Nintentoad125 👻 (Talk to me! 🗣️) 07:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)