Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana Marie Cox
This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. Consensus was to keep / merge. VFD is not for suggestions to merge. Be bold and merge, should anyone like to do so. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:25, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Ana Marie Cox is not notable enough for her own article -- the only thing I'm aware that she's done notably is published Wonkette -- the information is relevant, but I suggest deletion, and once the vote is concluded, the creation of a redirect to Wonkette. Two contributors on the Talk:Wonkette page have already expressed support in principle for this change.
Eggplant Wizard 00:05, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC) (can't seem to stay logged in for some reason -- if you're questioning the validity of my identity, look at who added the VfD tag to the page initially over at Ana Marie Cox) Looks like I'm not logged in for that, either. I'll stick a note on my User Page. Ok - looks like I can't stay logged in to do any edits at all, and that includes submitting a bug report about the situation. so for the time being, you'll all have to take this dynamic IP's word on my identity, though I'm be loathe to condone doing so as a regular practice.
- Please don't make suggestions about how to vote on a VfD debate page itself. This is what got Iasson in trouble. RickK 05:49, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Suggestion removed. -Eggplant Wizard
- I agree that this page could serve as a useful redirect to Wonkette. Meelar (talk) 00:28, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge or keep. Why does this need to be deleted before the redirect is created? Kappa 05:56, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- My understanding is that deleting prior to a redirect being created is desirable when the information is not necesarry, in order to simplify both authorship lineage and technical resources associated with the copyright of the work. Merge/keep, if I'm not mistaken, would require seperate maintenance of both pieces of authorship information. All of the relevant information is already presented in wonkette Eggplant WizardTalk 06:16, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- In that case, maybe they should change the Deletion Policy about "Article duplicates information in some other article". Kappa
- Comment: Since attribution is automatically recorded by the respective page histories, there is essentially no maintenance necessary. Deletion is generally reserved for situations when it is important to remove the content from history altogether. For example, when it is libelous, a copyvio or just inappropriate. None of that seems to apply here. For the record, I think you could have been bold and redirected. Rossami (talk)
- My understanding is that deleting prior to a redirect being created is desirable when the information is not necesarry, in order to simplify both authorship lineage and technical resources associated with the copyright of the work. Merge/keep, if I'm not mistaken, would require seperate maintenance of both pieces of authorship information. All of the relevant information is already presented in wonkette Eggplant WizardTalk 06:16, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- redirect wonkette to ana. A person is more important IMHO. Mikkalai 06:35, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, don't redirect. Wonkette is the name of a blog and the name of a persona; she herself is a distinct person from the "Wonkette" project/persona. This is no different from having separate articles on Glenn Reynolds and Instapundit. She was notable years earlier as a contributor to Suck.com, for those who remember that once-notorious website from the early days, and may quite possibly move on to other non-Wonkette projects in the future. So distinct articles are appropriate. -- Curps 08:03, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- IMO, article could be recreated if and when she were to do something more notable that was distinctive from Wonkette. As it stands, a redline and mention of her on suck.com and wonkette should be sufficient. Eggplant WizardTalk
- Merge and redirect to Wonkette. Megan1967 08:11, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Wonkette. Is not notable outside of Wonkette. — Linnwood 07:37, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep --Haham hanuka 08:43, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Ana Marie Cox is becoming widely shown as one of the fces of blogging thanks to Wonkette. Preserving the article on her personally will allow us to put in the article material not directly related to her blog. Capitalistroadster 09:44, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Wonkette. Gamaliel 16:43, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Based on the evidence available so far, her notability is entirely derivative of her work for Wonkette. (Being an Executive Editor at Suck.com might be worth a mention in that article but not a separate article.) Merge and redirect. Rossami (talk) 23:39, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - She has appeared on PBS and MSNBC as herself. Wonkette is a property of Gawker media, not Ana Marie Cox. Stirling Newberry 23:50, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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