Talk:Prince Philippe, Duke of Orléans

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The Orleanists via the Elector of the Palatine are the senior descendants of James VI/I, of which the most junior was Sophia of Hanover.

If the Act of Settlement were to be stripped, but the exclusion of the Jacobins retained, the Orleanists are pretenders to both England and France.

He was not known as the Comte de Paris at all. His title of pretension was Duc d'Orléans. john k 05:39, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Further My Grandfather was the aid to the Duke. I have a phot of the duke signed as well as I beleive 4 books from his trips. One book is 1927 by a Docter Recamier called " L'Ame De L'EXILE Souvenirs Des Voyages Dde Monseignor Le Duke d"Orleans"

I there is someone out there who would like to discuss, I would be pleased to contact. My Grandfathers name was Harry Sansome.

Tim Flook tflook@shaw.ca 21 Jan 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.161.11 (talk) 03:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Redundant and trivial content

Efforts to reduce inappropriate style and content in this article may require request for external intervention. To avoid this, please let's stop adding and re-inserting non-encyclopedic matter. This has been complained of for years on the talk pages of royalty biographies. The editor responsible (committing the same errors at numerous biographical articles on the Capetians, their spouses and in-laws, as well as the Lorraines, Savoys, Estes, Gonzagas, Habsburgs, Wittelsbachs and French ducal families), as well as on bios of members of other dynasties and noble families.

The editor seldom responds to concerns expressed on talk pages or edit summaries, instead re-inserting deletions and moving the page while dismissing fact tags and edit summary objections. The problem persists in two forms: inappropriate style and inappropriate content.

The content violates Wikipedia's exclusionary policy against genealogical minutiae and exposition of insignificant details. It consists of excess in:

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4. Inflate, padding the article, making it harder to notice when sources, editing or more substance is needed. FactStraight (talk) 06:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what content FactStraight is referring to in this article (although I definitely agree with him about other articles where he has complained of similar problems). Could FactStraight be more specific? Noel S McFerran (talk) 11:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

British army rank

You say he couldn't be commissioned in the British army because this would require permission from the head of state. You don't explain why this permission would not have been forthcoming. Also he 'took rank as a lieutenant' - which is a commissioned rank. Clarification, please. Valetude (talk) 11:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Steel Screw Steamer Schooner Maund

I have been unable to verify the following, but it does appear to contribute to the story of the Duke's life.

Owner: 12/1911 Villiers Morton-Jackson, Clonmel, Co Tipperary (beneficial owner, Duc de Montpensier) Vessel history
7-9/1911 described as "Lord Inverforth's yacht", probably chartered
12/1911 chartered to Alfred Vanderbilt
3/1913 sailed Naples for Albania; arr Vlore c2/4/1913, and Duc de Montpensier was received enthusiastically as future Pretender of the Albanian throne
23/1/1914 had small onboard fire at Saigon during Far East cruise
10/1914 left by Duc de Montpensier in China for use of British naval forces in the Pacific
14/4/1915 on Admiralty service, fitted out as auxiliary patrol yacht by Camper & Nicholson, Northam Shipsview (talk) 10:14, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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